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I've re-arranged the ships in the list into a double-alphabetical order of race, with major race ships listed in alphabetical order of race follwed by minor race ships listed in alphabetical order of race, like so;

Argon Boron Kha'ak Paranid Pirate Split Teladi Terran Xenon Yaki Aldrin ATF Goner OTAS Terraformer

The definition of "Major" and "Minor" races is a bit blurry but this is what I've decided on. Roughly, 'Major' races are ones you have distinct rep with that can be gained and lost in the usual way and have relatively full ship lists and 'Minor' races depend on another's rep and/or have relatively few different ship types.

I've also removed the Kha'ak Guardian from the list as it's an orbital defence platform rather than a carrier, and I've removed the Mobile Repair Ship because, to my knowledge, it's not in any vanilla game. A more appropriate place for this would be a special 'Non-Vanilla Ships' section, were it kept here then I for one would be very annoyed at having my hopes lifted seeing it alongside the other M1s only to have them dashed by being told it's not available!

I might move the ATF Woden there for the same reason. I'm creating the section now. Spychotic 05:11, 6 October 2010 (CDT)


I'm looking at the Shuri and Kha'ak Hive Queen and wondering if they should be on this list. I know that they're M1 class vessels but they're pretty much indistinct from the Colossus and Kha'ak Carrier respectively. Of course they should have their own articles, but I think that these articles should be linked to from the Colossus & Hoshi and the Kha'ak Carrier articles respectively. I don't think that the ship lists, which I see being used to compare ships, should be cluttered with near-carbon-copies of other ships. Unless anyone raises an objection, I'll carry out the aforementioned edits in a few days. Spychotic 16:40, 8 October 2010 (CDT)

perhaps if they are effectively variants then they should be merged into a master page and redirect the other article to that master? The information on one if they are copies ought to apply to the other and having it replicated more or less verbatim is counter productive. On the downside, if the values do differ in some future patch you're left, at a minimum, with recreating the variant infobox.

In the case of the shuri, having a separate entry for a different faction's version does make a little sense as then you can categorize the page separately. I am considering splitting off the pirate versions of the nova and falcon for example, they have clear connections to the main article, but do deserve mention as being different in that they were stolen/repurposed/hijacked. Madned 18:11, 8 October 2010 (CDT)


So I was trying to make the column for the shields a bit more useful by making it sort on the actual shield value rather than the number of shields. This is what I got:


M1 Carriers
Name Race Class Speed Accel Steering Hull Shields Shield Reactor Turrets Laser Cap Laser Rchg. Cargo Cargo Class Hangar Price
Colossus Argon M1 79.1 6.27 0.66 400,000 6 (3 x 2GJ) 8,200 6 53,200 798 8,800 XL 60 67,823,098
Colossus Hauler Argon M1 79.1 6 0.7 200,000 6 (6 x 1GJ) 4,100 6 53,200 798 8,800 XL 60 Not for sale
Odin ATF M1 85 8 0.86 1,600,000 10 (5 x 2GJ) 8,500 6 105,000 1,575 12,500 XL 44 67,891,874
Woden ATF M1 90 8 0.8 200,000 12 (6 x 2GJ) 9,000 6 107,000 1,600 12,000 XL 44 76,102,339
Shark Boron M1 93 9.3 0.67 360,000 6 (3 x 2GJ) 9,400 6 47,800 717 10,000 XL 45 61,790,791
Aran Goner M1 12.2 0 0.08 340,000 12 (6 x 2GJ) 34,200 0 38,500 578 120,000 XL 30+ Not for sale
Mobile Repair Ship Goner M1 12.2 0 0.08 340,000 12 (6 x 2GJ) 34,200 0 38,500 578 120,000 XL 30 Not for sale
Kha'ak Carrier Kha'ak M1 96.9 11 0.8 120,000 8 (4 x 2GJ) 9,400 6 28,500 855 8,000 XL 25 Not for sale
Hive Queen Kha'ak M1 96.9 11 0.8 120,000 18 (9 x 2GJ) 9,400 6 28,500 855 8,000 XL 25 Not for sale
Zeus Paranid M1 82 6 0.6 400,000 6 (3 x 2GJ) 8,200 6 58,500 877 8,000 XL 42 86,730,365
Galleon Pirate M1 83.2 8 0.9 300,000 4 (2 x 2GJ) 6,560 6 53,200 797 8,360 XL 25 Not for sale
Raptor Split M1 109.3 13 0.6 320,000 4 (2 x 2GJ) 9,000 6 71,800 1,076 8,800 XL 65 80,276,604
Condor Teladi M1 64.5 4 0.5 480,000 8 (4 x 2GJ) 7,600 6 53,200 797 12,000 XL 35 67,952,727
#deca Terraformer M1 36 9 0.9 900,000 12 (6 x 2GJ) 9,400 4 250,000 3,746 8,000 XL 50 Not for sale
Tokyo Terran M1 87 8 0.8 340,000 10 (5 x 2GJ) 10,660 6 100,000 3,000 7,040 XL 50 68,033,931
J Xenon M1 89.4 9 0.9 480,000 6 (3 x 2GJ) 9,400 6 42,500 637 8,000 XL 50 Not for sale
Hoshi Yaki M1 112 12 0.5 280,000 4 (2 x 2GJ) 8,200 6 51,000 799 8,800 XL 40 79,732,059
Shuri Yaki M1 79.1 6 0.7 400,000 6 (3 x 2GJ) 8,200 6 53,200 797 8,800 XL 60 Not for sale

I've not looked at the javascript yet, but if I were to fix it so that it did a numeric sort if the first word could be numerically parsed and fell back to the alphanumeric sort otherwise would that be something that would get published on the site?

--KayEss (talk) 07:11, 1 October 2013 (CDT)